Pacman Jones just returned the overtime kickoff 36 yards to the 43. DeMeco Ryans just stopped Travis Henry after a one-yard gain. Henry left the field.
Glenn Earl was called for holding, giving the Titans a first down at their 49. Chris Brown, the Titans' reserve running back, just broke through for a 16-yard gain to the 35-yard line. The Titans were called for holding, but Brown ran it back to the Houston 40, making it second-and-15.
Now it's third-and-14 from the 39, and Vince Young just ran for the touchdown up the middle with 11:14 remaining to give the Titans the Posted by John McClain at December 10, 2006 03:08 PM
Just one word...
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Posted by: Lee at December 10, 2006 03:22 PM
Posted by: Roger at December 10, 2006 03:22 PM
Imagine you're Bob McNair right now.
Posted by: AJ at December 10, 2006 03:23 PM
The Houston Texans could have had Vince! Houston has the dumbest management in the NFL. They deserved to lose to Vince like that!
Posted by: James at December 10, 2006 03:23 PM
Vince is a BAAAAADDDD Man!!!
!!!
Posted by: Larry at December 10, 2006 03:23 PM
The one thing Bob McNair or David Carr did not want to see was Vince Young running for a game winning TD and then shouting "This is MY house!" I guess it is. All that is left to say is Goodbye to David Carr and Can I get a redo by Bob McNair and Coach Kubiak.
Posted by: beau g at December 10, 2006 03:24 PM
VINCE STABS HOUSTON!
I don't think anyone could have written a better story line for this game. Cool as a cucumber, Vince finished off the Texans.
..in more ways than one.
Posted by: at December 10, 2006 03:25 PM
I can't wait to listen to Houston talk radio this week.
Posted by: Bubba at December 10, 2006 03:25 PM
General, I think that was a dagger just drilled through the heart of the entire Texan franchise. Congrats to Vince Young who has "IT" and will lead the Titans to several Super Bowls during his Hall of Fame career.
Vince Young is INCREDIBLE!!!
Posted by: TenTex at December 10, 2006 03:26 PM
what i (lifelong oilers fan who hated the team after they left and have cheered the texans from day 1) HATE about the texans is that with their WONDERFUL decision making have made me a TITANS fan. way to go vince.
Posted by: jj at December 10, 2006 03:26 PM
WOW.
Forgive me for going on like that.
But, R U FREAKING KIDDing ME WOW!!
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Posted by: Roger at December 10, 2006 03:26 PM
Texans are a loser organization. Would've bet the farm that they were gonna lose.
Vince Young is a proven winner. Loser organizations select players based on numbers. They use spreadsheets to decide who they keep and who they let go.
Great players are all about the intangibles, and Vince Young is a great player. Carr and Mario Williams ..
. numbers guys. Texans deserve to lose and will continue to lose because they're accountants and not winners.
Posted by: Richard at December 10, 2006 03:27 PM
Geez, you think Kubiak might be rethinking not taking Vince. Idiot.
Posted by: Clark at December 10, 2006 03:27 PM
Wonderful,.
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we only have 8 to 10 more years of this SPANKING by Vince Young,...
he beat us with his legs. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FINE EVALUATIONS TEXANS "SMART PEOPLE" Go draft a punter with next years 1st round draft pick you geniouses..
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Posted by: Eli at December 10, 2006 03:27 PM
How sweet it is!
!!!
Sorry, haters!!
When you need plays, The Vince makes plays.
Move over, Texans (bacon), now there's something meatier.
Posted by: Cowboy Vince at December 10, 2006 03:27 PM
OH MY GOD!!
!
I can no longer defend the Mario Williams pick. I have been officially converted.
They blew that pick. This was an awful week for football. We have debated this all week.
The pro-Mario Williams/Carr people on one side. The pro-Vince on the other. The Vince fans just won.
I am so glad this week is over. Somebody just go ahead and put Vince on Mt. Rushmore and lets get it over with!
Posted by: Rick at December 10, 2006 03:27 PM
I'm afraid of rising energy costs!!
I'm afraid of fat-free dressing!
!!
I'm afraid of becoming a tool!
!!
I'm afraid of VY taking our dignity!
!!
Posted by: Texans Coaches at December 10, 2006 03:29 PM
The picture of VY running past Mario Williams has to be the picture of the year.
Someone should frame it and send it to Charley Casserly.
Posted by: gregg at December 10, 2006 03:30 PM
Good-bye Carr. Maybe Mr.
McNair will go buy another team and trade for you...
please leave Houston and trade for all of the winners you've piled up here.
Posted by: keith at December 10, 2006 03:30 PM
Okay the Titans got the best of us this year SO WHAT. Vince Young ran for a touchdown in overtime SO WHAT.
I am still a TRUE Texans fan and I will not give up on this Team Yeah it hurt But We should already be used to heartbreaking losses. We will be better I dont if it will be next year or what but I will still be there when they are.
Posted by: Emilio Garcia at December 10, 2006 03:31 PM
Texans, you got some splainin' to do!
HHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
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Posted by: stew at December 10, 2006 03:31 PM
In-freaking-credible!!!
That is what a leader does.
Posted by: Sarge H at December 10, 2006 03:32 PM
What an awesome run to win a ball game..
...
then again...
..the touching the ball on the kick off and giving him the ball on the 40 just makes it too easy for him to do his stuff.
...
.or how about this..
..the defense let him go 60 yards to win a game.
...
..where in all of this is it David Carrs fault for losing the game.
vince Young came thru for his team...
because the Texans defense didn't get the job done...
..not becasue Carr didn't.
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and one other thing.what about the 2nd to the last possesion of the game where Moulds was clearly hit before the ball got there..
.no flag..
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.the flags againnst..
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..and lack of flags for.
..the Texans didn't help today.
I hope Carr gets a chance to avenge this loss...
.in fact.I can't wait until next year to take it to him and the Titans.
...
in their house and in ours.
Posted by: mike at December 10, 2006 03:32 PM
Who was the idiot on the Texans who chose Carr over Young. Fire both Kubiak and Carr and start over.
The only way this game would have ended better - Carr throws an interception for a Titans return TD.
Posted by: TD at December 10, 2006 03:33 PM
Posted by: Tony C at December 10, 2006 03:33 PM
Vince Young is the man and we had a chance to get him too. I think Mcnair should fire all his brass for making him look like a joke to the city of Houston.
Just makes me sick that Bud Adams is laughing all the way to the bank and even has a chance for the playoffs with a rookie quarterback. Mattress Mac did all he could do for the Texans to pick this guy up in the draft, guess Mac knows a winner when he sees it. Any room for Mac on your payroll McNair?
I'd bet he work for free too. See ya, on my way to get a Vince jersey!!
Posted by: Michael in Cypress at December 10, 2006 03:33 PM
How does the salt feel in that wound Bud McNair?
Posted by: James at December 10, 2006 03:34 PM
Couldn't have gone worse for the Texans and they deserve every bit of it..
.maybe next time they will do their homework. That's what a team that believes can do and VY has then believing.
I feel sorry for some of you having to go through the enlightenment today, but the good news is this debate is closer to being over and we know at least one game will sell out a year from here on out...
Posted by: Drew at December 10, 2006 03:35 PM
yeah the but the touchdown shouldn't have counted, Williams was being held by number 76 of the titans. Sounds like Jeff Fischer told his line to give Vince as much time as you can and stop Mario Williams at all cost including holding. Oh well, maybe we can trade for a number one pick in the draft and pick up Troy Smith, or is he not eligible?
Posted by: reggie bush at December 10, 2006 03:35 PM
The ending could have been worse for Texans management, but I DON'T KNOW HOW!! I'll be listening to you tomorrow morning when the switchboard melts down.
Posted by: G Bro at December 10, 2006 03:35 PM
great game. dc played well, but vy is a rookie and outplayed carr. too bad casserly did not have a subjective way to measure leadership and competitive fire.
Posted by: syed at December 10, 2006 03:37 PM
Those of us in Nashville of course are overjoyed, but I think the look on Vince's high school coach's face at the end from the stands - that serene smile and look of total pride - says it all.
Posted by: Stephanie at December 10, 2006 03:37 PM
Thats why he's the man, he lead UT to a title and now he's leading the Titans.
Sure would have been interesting to see the Texan's owner when Vince ran for the score.
Posted by: Brian at December 10, 2006 03:38 PM
Posted by: Nate at December 10, 2006 03:38 PM
I guess by now the claim that this season is a success because John McClain pointed out earlier that you've doubled your win total from last year seems rather empty.
Imagine how many you could have won if you had drafted Vince.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I forgot that he doesn't fit the system. Sweet dreams, Houston.
Posted by: Moral Victory at December 10, 2006 03:39 PM
I can feel your pain.
The Texans played their best game of the year considering the circumstances.
I saw four things today.
2) That Charlie Casserly should never be allowed to say another word about football to anyone ever again upon threat of federal imprisonment.
4)The official Coronation of the CURRENT and MOST Exciting SUPERSTAR in the FREAKING NFL.
DId I forget to say WOW?
WOW.
Everyone won in this game, Mostly anyone anywhere whom is a football fan.
I am going to take a few days ignoring the inevitable bs..
. to follow for now
REJOICE..
that was a great game with OUR team putting on a watchable enjoyable show and only a seminal moment in NFL history.
Seminal? It means, Joe Namath predicts Jets win Super Bowl, THe Drive, The Catch, Joe Montana.
Remember Earl running over the BOZZ on Monday night Football?
This beat it. Seminal.
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Did I say WOW!
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Posted by: Roger at December 10, 2006 03:40 PM
Was Mario Williams in the game? He was listed as probable but I never heard his name.
Seems like more proof that management made the wrong pick.
And what a moronic play near the end of regulation to let the ball go after signaling a fair catch. Got stuck on the one yard line instead of the 15 had he caught the ball.
Carr cant seem to get the deep ball if his life depended on it.
Defense obviously has it woes too. And come on dont they know that Vince is a runner? 36 yards right up the middle!
Posted by: Mike at December 10, 2006 03:40 PM
In-vince-able!!!
How could so many ex-fans be so right and not the Texans?..
.LEO
Posted by: Leo at December 10, 2006 03:41 PM
Vince Young put a dagger in the heart of the Texans with that run.
1.
He is human and flawed. But, so are nearly all rookies.
2.
He has the heart of a champion.
It's Vince's heart and drive to win that makes the difference.
It was a great game though.
The Texans hung tough to the very end.
Posted by: VYR at December 10, 2006 03:42 PM
what we need is a new coach not a new qb. put a lonhorn at coach and maybe we will start passing on 3rd and 15.
Posted by: arod at December 10, 2006 03:42 PM
Some players are just winners. Sadly, few of those players are on the Texans roster.
Posted by: justsam at December 10, 2006 03:43 PM
Who did Houston use their #1 draft pick on?
Somehow I can't remember.
Posted by: frank harris at December 10, 2006 03:43 PM
Like you said yesterday John..
.Win Texans then you will not have to hear about Vince Young..
.well u didnt so get ready..
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VINCE YOUNG VINCE YOUNG VINCE YOUNG...
:)
Posted by: jade at December 10, 2006 03:43 PM
39 yard run by vy in OT to beat the texans? man, that was priceless.
Posted by: dodgie at December 10, 2006 03:43 PM
A fitting end for a terrible franchise decision.
Vince Young will haunt Bob McNair and Gary Kubiak for the next 10-15 years.
Posted by: ben j. at December 10, 2006 03:43 PM
This is getting depressing watching the Texans on Sunday.
Congrats to VY for proving to the Texans who should have been the #1 pick in the draft. You think Kubiak and Mcnair are having 2nd thoughts on there choice. I wonder if VY makes Casselry's top 10 QBs now.
What a minute, I just remembered he help the Texans pass in chosing VY. This game proved to me that David Carr just doesn't have the "IT" factor.
Posted by: Joe at December 10, 2006 03:43 PM
What did you think would happen?
That David Carr would lead his team down the field and score a go ahead TD at the end of regulation? Why didn't the Texans go for it with 2 minutes left on 4th and one. Did Kubiak think they were still in the playoff race?
I said it back when they passed on VY in the draft. Vince Young is the Michael Jordan of Football. He will haunt the Texans like this for the next 15 years.
While we will be looking at a new QB in free agency or the Draft next year, the Titans will be adding a few pieces to make a deep playoff run. Heck, they may even win the next three games and end up in the playoffs this year! VY will win at least 2 Super Bowls in his career.
David Carr will be playing for the Raiders next year.
Posted by: Kirk at December 10, 2006 03:44 PM
Come on! This posts are not posting fast enough.
Hurry up!!!
Posted by: Leo at December 10, 2006 03:44 PM
Hey, John. You keep saying that Kubiak has no confidence in Carr, based on the types of plays he calls in certain situations. Maybe, some of the play calling has to do with the offensive line and the horrible pass protection.
I don't think its fair that all the blame goes to Carr, the O-line has to share some of the responsibility.
Posted by: Frank at December 10, 2006 03:44 PM
wow..
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Posted by: gene at December 10, 2006 03:44 PM
OH MY GOD!
I am too happy to have just witnessed that game to bitch about anything.
Posted by: Roger at December 10, 2006 03:45 PM
Vince just makes plays, it may not always be pretty but you can tell that his teammates know he's gonna make it happen when game is on the line.
Carr played pretty well today no fumbles or interceptions and cannot be blamed for the loss, he may be a good QB someday but he doesn't have "it" and never will, Vince has "it".
Posted by: anthony at December 10, 2006 03:47 PM
General,
Who was the rookie quarterback in this game? The one who took a sack even though he was outside the pocket and could have thrown it out of bounds, and also threw 2 passes even though he was past the line of scrimmage. And he also could only throw dump off and short passes.
Or the other one who threw like a Pro, ran like an All-Pro, and rallied his team to a victory like a SUPER-PRO?
VY will eventually lead his team to many Super Bowls to come! That LEMON of a CARR will only lead the Texans to the ALL-JUNKYARD team!
And to think the Texans could have had the perennial All-Pro quarterback playing for them leading them to so many Super Bowls for the next 12 years! But the Texans think the people of Houston don't know a special hometown talent when we have been seeing it for 7 years!
Posted by: The Private at December 10, 2006 03:48 PM
HIRE ME BOB MCNAIR I'll take half the money you're paying your current GM and if the Texans still suck after 5 years I'll give it all back.
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Posted by: Jim Brown at December 10, 2006 03:49 PM
Don't get all emotional on us now General.
But your call of the end of the game sounds as if you may have been in shock? Are you ok?
Now it's third-and-14 from the 39, and Vince Young just ran for the touchdown up the middle with 11:14 remaining to give the Titans the 26-20 victory.
Posted by John McClain at December 10, 2006 03:08
Posted by: Roger at December 10, 2006 03:50 PM
Posted by: Kates at December 10, 2006 03:50 PM
Texans fan but hope they continue to lose so that they get rid of that sorry David"Can't Drive"Carr.
Posted by: Drod at December 10, 2006 03:50 PM
I'm so happy for Vince Young - storybook ending to the game.
If there is a lesson to be learned from the Texans, it's if there is ever another NFL expansion team, they should NOT pick a quarterback with their first pick.
Build up your offensive and defensive lines, and use a journeyman quarterback the first few years.
Posted by: Craig at December 10, 2006 03:51 PM
Oh, ..
.how sweet it is. I have to give David Carr credit, he didnt hurt his team today.
He played good enough to stay employed as a journeyman quarterback for a while anyway. But on third and 14 from the 39, every Eye of Texas fell on VY and Vince simply got it done! Oh, .
..to be a fly on the wall in the Owners Booth this afternoon.
Posted by: Chris Norton at December 10, 2006 03:52 PM
Posted by: Laz at December 10, 2006 03:52 PM
The decision to take a knee show the lack of confidence in Carr.
The Titans had better field position most of the day, so OT heavily favored them if they won the toss, especially because of Bironos' range. Vince is also famous for coming alive when the pressure is on, another plus for Tennessee.
The Titans also have the more potent offense. Even if they lost the toss, I feel it still favored them.
In OT, it usually comes down to who wins the toss.
Kubiak chose a 50/50 chance rather than trust Carr to take a shot down the field and try to get into field-goal range. We have the #1 receiver in the league and a kicker who appeared to be "feelin' it" today. What's there to lose except a game that you were likely to lose in OT anyway?
All today showed was that the coaching staff doesn't believe in David Carr. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, the interception prone Brett Favre, and even, perhaps, Vince Young, would not be asked to take a knee in that situation.
Posted by: Steve at December 10, 2006 03:52 PM
Judgement Day came and as we already knew Vince is a winner and Carr is a loser.
Posted by: double nickel at December 10, 2006 03:53 PM
i think it is time to put the plug on the david carr experiment. i have backed him up, but the events this season have shown that he is not the man to lead our team to where we want it to be. the front office and the fans should admit past failures but move on and build our team together.
it is a trying time for texans nation, but we must work together and have a clear vision of where we want to go and who can take us there.
Posted by: luis at December 10, 2006 03:54 PM
Out of all the losses the Texans have suffered, this one is the one that stings the most. For David Carr, for Gary Kubiak, for McNair, for the city, and especially for the real fans (like myself), who would never dream of booing this team or rooting against this team.
If you look at the way we lost this game, it definantly is the absolutte lowpoint in franchise history. I don't know what this franchise should do right now.
Posted by: Johannes at December 10, 2006 03:55 PM
Coach Kubiak needs to be fired along with Carr.
Pride will get you fired.
Posted by: Help at December 10, 2006 03:55 PM
How could it end any other way..
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now people like me who thought it might have been a good idea to take Vince, but were OK with Mario...
well, we can just bow to fate, stop listening to the inevitable din on sports talk for at least the next 4 weeks, and get on with important things in life. WHICH by the way is what the Texans need to do in figuring out what to do next, one thing that is not an option is getting Vince now, so lets get over it..
.shoulda, didn't..
.move forward.
Posted by: john at December 10, 2006 03:57 PM
Maybe this will finally WAKE UP the Texan's management (or lack thereof.
..)!
! Hopefully BUSH will continue the insanity tonight and roll over the Cowgirls..
.. Posted by: at December 10, 2006 03:59 PM
We just love you when you interview on our Nashville stations.
You are funny yet intelligent. You make me want to yell for the Texans--which I do when they aren't playing the Titans. Thank you for the nice things said about Vince Young.
We are proud to have him.
Posted by: Sarah White at December 10, 2006 03:59 PM
Justice served. Thanks to all for the legalistic fandom lectures.
Don't tell me what it takes to be a fan. I know. Give us a product that we can be proud of and don't wallow in mediocriy and label this progress.
Funny how the front office drafted Williams in order to compete with the Colts when the Texans can't even beat the other teams in the division. This was a wonderful day for the city of Houston and all fans of Vince Young.
Posted by: Real Fan at December 10, 2006 04:01 PM
Now, do you believe?
Posted by: Frances Trimble at December 10, 2006 04:02 PM
Could not have been a worse ending for McNair, Kubes, or Carr.
Posted by: jack henderson at December 10, 2006 04:03 PM
Wow, who could have predicted this?
Just about every pro football fan in America, that's who.
When the chips are down, Vince Young makes you pay. Ask the Giants, or the Colts. Or the Trojans.
David Carr takes a knee.
Where's all that faith the coaching staff had in Carr when they paid him the millions to stay?
Posted by: Eddie B at December 10, 2006 04:04 PM
Well, not sure what the heck Kubiak is smoking these days, but you got to try to win instead of playing not to lose, especially when you were 4 - 8.
No doubt, the VinceLovers will blame David Carr for this loss, but that is totally stupid, not just misguided. Gary has got to try and go for it..
his QB had played just fine all day and they had enough time to at least attempt to get up the field. This loss belongs (special teams not withstanding) on GK. and PS.
. Please Vince, have some class, stop acting like P.Jones.
He is a complete classless act, probably 1/2 step ahead of the law...
stop acting like him. You know better than to be a _________.
Posted by: David at December 10, 2006 04:05 PM
Why didn't the officials review the pass/fumble by VY?
???
I thought the game should have ended then. It was a fumble!!
I have never said a thing about Kubiaks coaching before. BUT today was horrible!!
!
3-and-13 and you run the ball!!
At least throw the ball to give the guys a chance.
You have the ball on the seven :53 secs left and you kneel the ball.
You can not say all the right things to the media and fans but during the game your coaching and decisions are saying something else.
Actions speak louder than words Kubiak.
When asked if David can be the QB for this team you always reply, "Absolutely" BUT during the game you don't give him the opportunity to pass on 3rd and 13. With :53 on the clock you kneel.
"You play to win the game!" you don't play not to lose. The same thing can be said about coaching.
You coach to win instead of coaching not to lose!!!
!!
Its clear to me that David has been coached to go to the check downs.
Let David throw down the field give big and fast #80 a chance to make a play.
Coach lost this game.
Posted by: btgusto at December 10, 2006 04:05 PM
In related news, Mario Williams had 2 tackles and 1 assist.
Posted by: Charles at December 10, 2006 04:06 PM
This is why I am a Cowboys fan!!!
Haha...
(not withstanding picking up Owens). There is no way you don't pick VY or Bush. These two are going to haunt this franchise for years.
..Go Oilers!
! Also, tell me why you would let this franchise go, just to build a stadium less than 3 yrs later??
It does not matter that you hate Bud Adams, what matters is you love the team...
Good Luck to you guys on draft day, maybe you can get the pick right for Adrain Peterson.
Posted by: T. Buff at December 10, 2006 04:07 PM
why no posts?
you cant find any that are clean enough or not completely negative to post?
Posted by: jj at December 10, 2006 04:08 PM
Well once again a decision made by the front office shows it's wisdom..
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The only thing Vince Young does is win, now my question is what has David Carr ever won, he went to Fresno State for heavens sake, he didn't even go to a real univeresity.
Vince went to one of the premier football schools in the country, and won and won and won...
but no, he wasn't good enough for the Texans brain trust...
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Man what a shame..
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Posted by: Hank at December 10, 2006 04:08 PM
All of Houston should be proud.
Not just VY loyal supporters.
Posted by: Doug at December 10, 2006 04:08 PM
Its very frustrating to consider that my home town team could have drafted Vince but let him go.
I cant help but wonder how much the aggie-vibe that infected the Texans from Day 1 had to do with the decision.
Maybe McNair didnt understand before that the aggies have never won anything and putting your faith in them to make decisions for you is never a good strategy. McNair probably gets it now, but too late. And there will never be another chance.
Just like there was only one Earl Campbell, there will only be one Vince Young.
Posted by: john p. at December 10, 2006 04:08 PM
Yep, but for awhile there, even into the 4th quarter, that 24-13 Texans win was looking pretty good.
I can't help but think the Texans bigwigs are kicking themselves over passing up Vince. But, all that's over now. It's on to the Super Bowl.
By the way, who'll be in it for, say, the next 8 years?
Posted by: JC at December 10, 2006 04:09 PM
Mr. McClain, by now means am I a Vince Young fan, but he is a differnce maker and he knows how to win and is not scared.
He oozes leadership which Carr does not. I think you need to get off the Mario Williams bandwagon, I think I heard his numbered called twice but I could be wrong. He is not a difference maker and if you say he is learning and he will be a force then I will call you a hipocrit because all you ever say about Reggie Bush is Reggie Bust!
I will tell you this , I am a Saints fan and he is exciting!!!
I just think the Texans went the wrong way with Mario picking him number 1. I for one am glad because the Saints have Bush and I LOVE IT!!
!!
Posted by: spier at December 10, 2006 04:11 PM
Wow!
! Ron Dayne was pounding the ball up the middle today. He did a very good job of making the right cuts and running with the ball.
Thank goodness Kubiak pulled him out and put in Lundy for the last drive so the drive would stall and we could settle for a field goal. Great coaching decisions today Kubiak. And did Mario put in for vacation today?
Thank you Titans for reminding us how pitiful our beloved team is.
Posted by: Rusty at December 10, 2006 04:11 PM
I dont know what to say. I mean is there something out there that we have not already said?
Is there something out there that we already don't know? We made a mistake not taking Vince Young. We made a mistake picking up the option on David Carr.
We made a mistake on picking Mario Williams with the #1 pick. So what now John McClain? Vince just came in our house and basically said "screw ya'll for not picking me.
" Is this it for David Carr? I sure as hell hope so..
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Posted by: jorge at December 10, 2006 04:11 PM
Heart. Some of the Texans have it, but unfortunately many others don't. There is a difference in preferring to win and passionately desiring to win.
The coaching staff needs to find out which group each player fits in and get rid of those that fit in the former.
I have defended Carr, but must admit that I was wrong. I do not see him leading the team to excellence.
Posted by: Henry at December 10, 2006 04:11 PM
Posted by: Ryan at December 10, 2006 04:12 PM
Holy VY, that guys got style and skills to bill. Wish I had a chance to get him on my team..
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Posted by: Chuck at December 10, 2006 04:12 PM
i guess we should blame carr for this loss..
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but i won't. he played well and his defense let him down. how in the world do you allow vince to run up the middle of the field like that in a critical part of the game?
this defense blew it against buffalo and they below it again today. games are won and lost in the 4th quarter and both QB's lead their teams to critical drives. its sad that our defense can't be called upon to make a play or get a critical stop when the game is on the line.
"david has no heart" thats a bunch of BS! i saw a player trying to compete and help his team win. david gave his best out there.
he made two bad throws but he was trying to make a play. isn't that what you nutty fans and reporters have been complpaining about all year!
david didn't lose this game.
..vince won it.
its as simple as that. i hope people can appreciate what david did today and be proud that he gave all he had to help his team wiin!
david carr for quaterback in 2007!
Posted by: ogechi at December 10, 2006 04:16 PM
WAR KEVIN KOLB OF OF U OF H for 2007...
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Posted by: Jorge at December 10, 2006 04:16 PM
Funny that the man who wasnt good enough to be the top draft pick beats us again.
Lets go Mario
Posted by: Kevin at December 10, 2006 04:17 PM
Did you check Vince Young's package?
Posted by: TX at December 10, 2006 04:19 PM
Worst business decision ever.
Love ya VY.
Hook 'em.
Posted by: Stephen at December 10, 2006 04:19 PM
Vince is a winner. Carr isn't.
The Texans deluded themselves and became infatuated with Mario's "measurables" during the draft process. They are dumb. Vince won in high school.
Vince won at UT. Vince is winning in the pros.
You cannot honestly tell me that the Titans are better across-the-board offensively.
Vince has taken the proverbial chicken s**t and has turned it into chicken salad.
I wish the Texans had won, but if they were going to lose, at least Vince did it.
Posted by: Heath at December 10, 2006 04:21 PM
Didn't we all know it would come down to this?
Vince Young and his cape making the game winning play. Bob McNair and Gary Kubiak should have that last play etched in their minds for quite some time. I can't help but imagining that somewhere Charlie Casserly is having a nice laugh.
I know Bud Adams is.
Posted by: Marcus at December 10, 2006 04:22 PM
Oh by the way David Carr sucks, and so does Andy Petite. Do you think that the Yankee's could give Carr 16mil also?
Maybe they could trade him to the Bosox, they will take anybody who the Yankees have interest in.
Posted by: TX at December 10, 2006 04:22 PM
I can't take this for the next 9 seasons,
Where was that realstate agent in Nashville John?
Maybe I can get a house next to Bud's so I can fly here on Bud's plane on Sunday nights and go to work during the week.
Cube-I-Yak,
Play for a win! It's not like its going to hurt our draft position!
Posted by: Rusty Shackelford at December 10, 2006 04:23 PM
For the first time, I found myself rooting against my home team, the Texans and I have a sneaky feeling it's gonna happen everytime in the future the two teams meet.
Vince Young was doing things I heard pundits say he will not be able to do for 4 years. Is there crow on the menu tonight for the Texans office staff?
Posted by: Gbolahan Faluade at December 10, 2006 04:23 PM
It's good to be an Oiler fan again.
Posted by: Jon at December 10, 2006 04:23 PM
Mario is HURT!!!
!!!
!!!
!
Most of you would be on your couch crying like little babies with that injury. He has been playing on ONE LEG for weeks now.
Grow up people!
Vince Young is good..
.yay! Seeing as i care about our team i will look at them.
They remain a team lacking in talent yet ravaged by injuries. This is why they remain inconsistent. They still have trouble putting together a good game across the board in all facets.
This game was a good reflection of that.
David Carr played well today. Vince Young is a good QB of course but if Carr plays like he did today every week then he won't be the problem.
The threw past the line of scrimmage thing is the one big mistake...
.other then that he had a solid game in a run-oriented offense.
Posted by: Chris at December 10, 2006 04:25 PM
So what do you think Mr.
McClain? Yeah i realize that Young won them the game but that happens. I thought that Carr played pretty well for the most part in a pressure packed game.
Yes...
the Texans protected him by running the ball a lot and not asking him to do a ton. That is what we should have been doing all season.
Also.
..I contend that running the clock out when we did shows lack of confidence in the whole offense.
We don't pass protect well enough in that situation to do anything else.
Posted by: Chris at December 10, 2006 04:26 PM
The only thing more priceless is being in the McNair household and hearing his kids tell his daddy, "We told you so!".
..LEO
Posted by: Leo at December 10, 2006 04:26 PM
I'm just hoping for a good draft pick for the Texans.
Hopefully they'll find a great running back and be a better team next year. They definitely blew it this year..
.Joe
Posted by: Joe P at December 10, 2006 04:26 PM
Mr. McNair thank you for spending close to a billion dollars to bring the city another football team.
How is virtually every decision since then has been a mistake ? Unbelievable.
Posted by: Joe at December 10, 2006 04:26 PM
So much for all those stats and qb ratings!
Posted by: AJ at December 10, 2006 04:27 PM
I am a died in the wool Longhorn Hater. Back when VY decided to go to UT I said he would sit on th ebench. Well we all know what he did there.
Before the 2005 season I said VY can't do a lot of things but one thing he does is Win. He did it again today. Props to him and cinders to the Texan Brain Trust that passed on him.
Mario Williams could be the next Mean Joe Greene or Elvin Bethea and he will be a bust when it is noted that he was picked before the next Joe Montana or Terry Bradshaw.
Worst of all Bad Hair Bud has the last laugh.
Posted by: Michael at December 10, 2006 04:28 PM
I'm a Texans die-hard (I just died hard) and I think all the criticism of Carr and the franchiise's decisions are 100% fair and deserved.
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. We wouldn't have NFL football if not for him. And I don't care if it's been 5 years of bad football.
Having a team is better than not having a team. Period. End of discussion
Posted by: at December 10, 2006 04:28 PM
It was Kubiak's decision to take Mario instead of Vince.
Fire Kubiak. It was incredibly dumb.
I think Mario drew a penalty in the first quarter.
Otherwise he was a no-show.
Vince skipped his senior year at UT, so he's extra young. That means he will be doing this in Reliant every year for the next decade or so.
Hey Kubiak...
most of the fans said: "Draft Vince." ..
You shoulda listened to them.
Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2006 04:28 PM
Inside the 2 minute warning, 4th Qtr, VY cocks his arm back, is stripped for a FUMBLE; this is recovered by Ryans, but ruled an incomplete pass.
DirecTV (I'm in Oregon) showed 2 replays, very easy to see it was a fumble, as there was no forward throw with the ball in VY's hand; it was stripped as a fumble.
The refs DID NOT REVIEW???
???
???
WHY NOT???
???
I was told by my friend in Houston they DID NOT SHOW A REPLAY? Very hard to accept that type of call in a VERY crucial situation..
.I thought the reviews were put in to make the game called the best as possible?
There seemed to be many defensive pass interference calls on the Texans too.
I certainly have to give it to VY - he came through in the clutch; what a run and GREAT blocking down field by the Titans.
WOW. Still in shock on this one, but this ain't the first time the Texans have put me in the type of shock.
I hope you give me your opinion on the play in question.
Posted by: JK at December 10, 2006 04:30 PM
Is it possible to file a class action suit against Charley Casserly? And what kind of buffoon(see Bob McNair) allows a guy who is on the outs to make draft day decisions for his football team?
Posted by: Jay at December 10, 2006 04:30 PM
Most Houston football fans knew all along...
it was common sense. Vince was a winner and thrived in the most toughest of pressure situations. All the NFL "experts?
", washed up old timers, wunderlichers, "system" crunchers and charley horse c-ass-erly just couldnt figure it out...
.which is pathetically bizarre. he's only a rookie to boot.
..unreal.
I Say Go Rockets !
Posted by: Weetold Yaso at December 10, 2006 04:30 PM
"david didn't lose this game..
.vince won it. its as simple as that.
"
Exactly...
when was the last time Carr did anything to win a game. He cant see down the field. He cant complete a pass longer than 10-15 yeards on a consistant basis.
The Texans need to go a different direction at QB...
:(
Posted by: Trey at December 10, 2006 04:30 PM
I think this will go down as the Pearl Harbor for the Texans organization. How they react to this is going to say a lot; the organization can wimper and continue doing what it is doing, or it can begin to react and really understand what it will take to win in this league. Personally, even as a VY fan, UT alum, etc.
, the organization must somehow get past this, and get past making today decisions based on what happened in the past or the current money invested (ie., Carr).
I think the organization from top to bottom (including McNair) needs to be re-examined.
Plain and simple. Not a Dan Reeves thumbs up, either, but a real re-examination. I hope the silent partners get McNair on the hotseat and really start making some noise.
I also think the Kubiak experiment is also one that needs to be closely re-examined. Not to say that he must go, yet, but I think this team needs experienced leadership at the top, and we currently do not have that.
How much this game has to sting.
Imagine a monday night game in 1978, but instead of Earl Campbell running for the Oilers, he was drafted and running for the Dolphins. Imagine an Earl Campbell running 80 yards down the far sideline in a Dolphins uniform late in the game to clinch victory. Luv Ya Blue would have never taken hold.
Today's result may have set the franchise years back in terms of how the fans will embrace the organization. Had VY ran his 39 yards in a Texans uniform, against the most hated of natural rivals, the city would have been abuzz for YEARS from this one play.
I think the organization has been so rooted in it's clean cut image that it is pathetic on the field.
Not to say we need the TOs or the PacMan Jones' of the world on our team, but I think the organization should re-examine it's overall image on the field. We need someone with heart and personality, it isn't Carr, it really isn't Kubiak either. The top owners in this league know how to win, and will do whatever it takes to do so.
The time is now...
do we want to be the next Arizona Cardinals of the NFL. Without some changes, that is exactly where we are headed (or basically, already there).
Posted by: Big G at December 10, 2006 04:32 PM
A great Titan(V.
Young) displaying his talent in his home town..the Texans have made the biggest NFL blunder of all time.
This giant Titan will rise once he masters the NFL league.
Posted by: Jray at December 10, 2006 04:32 PM
Vinstant Classic!
And not one Carr supporter has a thing to say.
This is beautiful. Seriously though, What Vince did today, words cant express. I tivo'd this game, and Ive been watching that play for the past 30 minutes.
It goes without saying what should have been done in the draft, but now this just stings that much more .
Kirk Herbstreit even took a shot at Houston last night staying city of Cleveland, do not make the mistake the city of Houston made.
David Carr will be a good QB someday, but it wont be in this city.
And to echo the many, Vince gets to rub it in our faces for a very long time...
..
Posted by: at December 10, 2006 04:33 PM
What a great "football decision" we made by drafting Mario Williams over Vince Young and Reggie Bush.
Now that we have been swept by the Titans and Vince Young, it was CLEARLY the wrong decision.
IndeVINCEable!
Posted by: Andy at December 10, 2006 04:33 PM
Last night Bob McNair had a terrible nightmare: He dreamed that Vince Young raced 39 yards in overtime, past Mario Williams, to win the game for the Titans.
Bob is so glad today that didn't happen. Good thing David Carr threw the ball downfield on that last drive and the Texans scored a touchdown in regulation rather than settling for a field goal and going to overtime. What's that?
It wasn't a dream? Oh, crap!
Posted by: Terry at December 10, 2006 04:34 PM
Everyone is laughing and piling on Houston.
Fox's Tery Bradshaw, Jimmy Johnson, and Howie Long stating that Houston really blew it and how fast Vince was coming along (6-4) now as a rookie starter. I cannot wait to see what the insider bloggers that work for Texan and Astro management come up with now. Mel Kiper, the top draft expert in the country, feels strongly that the Texans should have drafted Young or Bush.
But over the next week, we will hear that every national expert and media type is wrong. Some of you bloggers will continue to defend to the death that the Texans are on the right path and did not blow two number 1 draft choices in 2002 and 2006!
By the way, the next two games will be against a very mad New England team followed by another angry Indianapolis team.
4-11 going into the last game against Cleveland.
Posted by: Steve S at December 10, 2006 04:34 PM
Am I the only one that rememebers that NFL QBs that RUN with the ball never last but a few years? VY will get hurt and will be gone in a few.
Posted by: Hank Hill at December 10, 2006 04:37 PM
The Texans and their organization are getting everything they deserve. Shouldn't have gave Carr an $8m bonus! Should have taken V.
Y.
Posted by: Ken at December 10, 2006 04:39 PM
BUD VY realy stuck it up u know what..
,..ouch!
!! but don't forget we will beat VY next season.
I still believe in TEXANS..
Posted by: mack at December 10, 2006 04:39 PM
It was in the numbers "10" is greater than "8".
The Texan organization should hang its head in shame and publicly offer an apology for the terrible pick they made. I was a 4 year season ticket holder, but when they chose Mario "who?" Williams, I had to let them go.
Great pick Mr. McNair. This is a nightmare that you alone created.
Did anyone else notice the sea of Vince fans? Would love to know how many fans were wearing number 90 jerseys.
Posted by: at December 10, 2006 04:40 PM
I do wonder at what point someone will be held accountable or accept responsibility for the decision to forego VY or Bush in the draft.
Conventional wisdom seems to suggest that it was Kubiak's call--the prideful belief that he could resurrect Carr's career and one would have to believe that he now regrets the decision. With every moment that VY has like today, or Bush last week, the choice of Mario Williams over these "playmakers" continues to evoke memories of Sam Bowie, the "Curse of the Bambino" and other such monumental personnel blunders. Understanding that Kubiak inherited a team in woeful condition, I do wonder how this draft, when coupled with performances like VY's today, might shorten the "grace period" that Coach Kubiak might otherwise have expected to receive.
Posted by: willie at December 10, 2006 04:41 PM
General, you were right years ago. Before the first season, you said that you wished that the Texans would plan to be really bad for about three years to accumulate top draft choices. If they had taken your advice at that time, they might have then drafted for defence, i.
e. Julias Peppers, waiting to draft a young quarterback as the opportunity developed. Unfortunately, just as the Saints did years ago with Archie Manning, they forced a young quarterback onto a poor team, wasting his career.
David Carr is a solid professional quaterback who is shell-shocked by years of unrelenting pressure.
Posted by: Olaf at December 10, 2006 04:41 PM
Who thinks Mario Williams got close enough to even be considered for holding. That is funny.
You know what the officials were doing at the end of that game? Same thing Mario and every person that had the blessing of seeing THE RUN.
They were saying WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
After Kirk Gibson hit the Natural shot to beat Eckersley the announcer kept saying over and over what the officals and the world were saying.
I CAN NOT BELIEVE WHAT I JUST SAW. "Jack Burke"
THE IMPOSSIBLE JUST HAPPENED!
"Vince Skully"
WOW "THE World" VY thank you.
Posted by: Roger at December 10, 2006 04:42 PM
If can't have Vince Young, we need the next best thing -- another Houston QB.
If KK is still available when the Texans' choose on NFL draft day and they don't select him with their first pick, I'm outta here.
I'll never root for the Texans again.
McNair: You are going to have to listen to the cheers for Vince and the jeers for Carr and Mario and the whole coaching staff for years to come unless you wake up to what the city wants. If we can't have Vince, at least give us Kevin.
Posted by: real houstonian at December 10, 2006 04:43 PM
Posted by: BOBBY at December 10, 2006 04:43 PM
Finally a use for my CARR jersey. A hankerchief to wipe the tears from my eyes. Vince was a Texan, we had the pick.
What happened?
Posted by: at December 10, 2006 04:43 PM
Vince should be the first person in the Texans Ring of Honor!
Posted by: Mike in Pearland at December 10, 2006 04:44 PM
General: Where can the Texans go from here?
Since the Cleveland game they have been nothing short of a disaster. I am a Texans fan, and I was a Oiler fan before them and through all the bad times from about 1976 til 1996 with the Oilers I cared. I don't have the same care for the Texans it is sad.
I even gave up a ticket for Today's game, yes I had a disertation that is due tomorrow to complete, and I do have to go to work tomorrow, but I gaurantee you if it had been a Oiler's game I would have found a way to pull a all nighter to finish my paper. This is just a sad situation.
Posted by: TX at December 10, 2006 04:44 PM
Disgusting but I can't hate Vince.
He truly is the man. Way to go Texans. What a PR nightmare.
Good luck McNair and Kubiak.
Posted by: Davdi at December 10, 2006 04:44 PM
Luv ya Blue!!
!
Posted by: Stephen at December 10, 2006 04:46 PM
John,
Couple of things: why does Reliant Stadium's turf continue to look like a soggy municipal golf course even after changes were reportedly made to fix that problem? Both teams had trouble w/ footing all day again.
Embarrassing after 4.5 years in an otherwise great venue.
Vince Young = winner (all he does is win lead; may not always be pretty or he may not do well on the Wonderlic Test - so what!
)
Texans franchise = incompetent decision-making have set them back so many times now back to square one. All involved (top to bottom) should share in the blame, including the owner McNair, Casserley, Capers, Kubiak, etc. Rick Smith is on the clock too.
Start over now please.
Posted by: Greg at December 10, 2006 04:47 PM
How do I know? Because even though one of the greatest sportswriter and broadcasters of all time died in 2002, I just hear him say.
WOW> I DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT I JUST SAW!!!
!!!
!
Posted by: Roger at December 10, 2006 04:48 PM
Wow, VY is god; he beat the Texans..
.
Give me a break. I'm sick of all of these TU homers making VY out to be god.
He is a terrible QB.
10 TDs, and 10 INTs
And if you look at VY's numbers, he obviously didn't win those games single-handedly.
I was so glad to see my Cowboys put that thug in his place.
45-14 with Bledsoe at QB; I'd love to see the Cowboys smack VY around again, with the 'Boys on top now.
VY isn't going to the playoffs. VY isn't going to win a Super Bowl (He better enjoy that tainted National Championship).
And the Texans are losers, with or without VY. I almost wish VY was drafted by the Texans, so he could catch the type of beat down Carr takes on a weekly basis.
Posted by: peruna96 at December 10, 2006 04:52 PM
A tale of two quarterbacks.
One who ALMOST played well enough to win and one who DID.
Posted by: davidb at December 10, 2006 04:53 PM
I have no Problem with saying that David Carr didn't lose the game. BUT!
He was a First ROUND DRAFT PICK.. FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICKS, are supposed to find ways to win the games when they are on the line, instead of playing just OK, just to keep his team in games.
Posted by: Northwest Steve at December 10, 2006 04:54 PM
Am I wrong as a texan fan to have rooted for Carr and the texans to lose? I know the only way the texans will get rid of Carr is if he loses to Vince twice, which he's done..
..and if he fails to continue to win games, which he is doing.
So, am i wrong general?? I just want all of charley's guys gone, except the ones from this previous draft class.
This is the only way we'll ever get rid of this losing mentality!
Posted by: Howard at December 10, 2006 04:56 PM
Did Vince Young really say "This is my House" that is awesome. The only thing I want to hear on draft day is "The Houston Texans selects Kevin Kolb out of the University of Houston" but lets be serious the Texans would draft a waterboy on draft day!
!
Posted by: Ryan at December 10, 2006 04:56 PM
Unbelievable!
The texans are just shameful.
Posted by: at December 10, 2006 04:56 PM
You guys crack me up...
..did any of you see faggings go out with an injury.
The game changed completely when that happened. That says if a pass..
which was cleary a fumble...
is called incomplete by a ref...
.that the play can't be over ruled by the guys upsatirs is idiotic and ludicrous..
...
so is the rule that gives the ball to a team on the 40 if the team kicking the ball has a player that touches it and it goes out of bounds...
.I could go on and on..
.Let Vince enjoy this day..
..let all you Carr haters have your cake and eat it too.
...
.not a problem..
.but seeing that I am a Texans fan..
..and knowing that you have to have the right players around you to succeed.
..this team will rebound.
...
.they had Pac Man..
..who is our equivalent to him.
...
.they had a line that protected him very well..
..he got he got sacked.
...
but for the most part..he always had more time to throw the ball today.
...
.get real..
...
Drew Bennet got open just about every time...
..how is thos Carr's fault.
...
.you guys are just idiots..
..and If I have any faith at all in McNair.
...
He will let Kubiak get every stinkin player he needs to bring a winner to this town...
.Let's be realistic..
..who really had the better defense today.
...
precisely...
..who had more play makers.
...
.precisely..
..the team that won.
...
but go ahead...
.and gloat..
you have a right..go ahead and trade Carr.
...
.I hope He goes to the Bears..
...
and lets see how long it takes for Carr to win a Superbowl...
..It'll happen way before the Titans, and you can take that too the bank.
...
if you live in Houston and root for the enemy..your nothing more than a traitor.
...
and traitors where I come from get shot...
..
Posted by: MM at December 10, 2006 04:57 PM
You got to admit that Houston blew it big time.
First they obviously did a terrible job evaluating VY. Second the team needs a heart, someone that won't take losing for anything. Someone who wants to have all the pressure on his shoulders.
Big mistake passing on VY. Of course the final point is the obvious - Houston/Texas loves this guy - make that wild about his guy. No matter what problems they mistakenly thought he would have, this guy would have given the fans someone to rally around.
A team needs passion - from within and from it's fans. That is the element that the Texans overlooked in their draft.
Posted by: jshuler43 at December 10, 2006 04:57 PM
As punishment, the county should change the stadium name to Reliable Vince Young Stadium.
..LEO
Posted by: Leo at December 10, 2006 04:57 PM
Posted by: Ryan at December 10, 2006 04:59 PM
Was Mario even at the game today ?
Way to go Texans...
...
another fabulous draft selection. Let's see how bad you can screw it up next year. Five years of being a season ticket holder is enough.
My sports entertainment money is going with the Astros. At least they are entertaining.
Posted by: Jim at December 10, 2006 04:59 PM
Could you imagine this Two houston area QB going head to head for the next decade.
Kevin Kolb vs Vince Young.
Posted by: Ryan at December 10, 2006 05:00 PM
I was hoping for an Vince Young ACL or MCL blowout. I guess I will have to wait another game for a career ending injury.
I hate Vince...
Posted by: Steve at December 10, 2006 05:00 PM
Now we see who has heart and what a true winner brings. We will not lose I will not let us lose. Give me the challenge give me the ball.
Jordan had it, Bird had it, Vince has it. What the hell did Sorry Mario do today besides get wiffed by young on that run. Didn't hear his name at all.
Now Mr. Mcnair don't you feel dumb. Home grown asked to be drafted by you and your stupid organization.
No your wonderlick score was to low. But sir I'm a winner. No we love David he needs more time to fail.
But I have all the tools you need. I'm big, fast unshackable in the pocket and I only run because I'm fater than everyone on the defence. NO I talked to Bud and he said he wanted to draft Mario so I'm going to stick it to him for leaving Houston.
Ok sir is that your final answer. Yes sorry kid.
Mr.
Adams will you draft me. Well son what did Boob say. He said he wanted to stick it to you.
He did, well we are going to show him. Besides he can't read a snow job with the flakes in his face. I told him I wanted Sorry Mario and that idiot bought it, hook line and 26 million dollars.
I'll send the jet for you. We'll toast to Htown. General you think that was the conversation?
WOOOOOOWWWWWWW !!!
!!!
!!!
!!
Posted by: superbase25 at December 10, 2006 05:02 PM
Posted by: Ryan at December 10, 2006 05:03 PM
Houston I think you have a problem!
The VY legend is only getting started.
Posted by: Xavier at December 10, 2006 05:04 PM
David Carr has the leadership of a middle school QB and Kubiak has the scouting talent of a little league football team.
Posted by: Mel at December 10, 2006 05:05 PM
From my point of view, Carr has been damaged in that place between the ears.
Too many sacks for too many years. He plays for survival. Vince plays to win.
It's called THE WILL TO WIN! Nice job Texans Front Office, you are the new Redskins!
Posted by: Chris Norton at December 10, 2006 05:06 PM
For all the people still defending Carr, stating that it was the coaches and refs calling a bad game, who are ya'll kidding?
It is not about Carr and the coaches it is about Vincent Young and what he has shown he can do. Yes Carr is getting better, but 5yrs to get better? Come on guys; wake up!
Quit holding on to the dream that Carr is going to take us to the next level. He is like a Dan Pastorini..
.HOT and COLD..
.though more cold than hot in David's case. Why o why didn't we say, "VY is our Guy" Bob McNair.
..use all that money you have and invest in a time machine, go back to yourself and tell youself to FIRE Casserly and HIRE Vince Young.
..O and DeMeco Ryans.
Anyone out their have a time machine that McNair or hell Kubiak can borrow.
P.S.
I'd like to send the one from Napolean Dynomite to them...
that would make me feel a little better...
LoL
Posted by: Atom at December 10, 2006 05:06 PM
This game made me sick to my stomach. How I wished I could invent a time machine and go back in time to have the Texans select Vince Young. Unfortunately, that ain't happening.
The Texans are and always will be my team, but I'm becoming a HUGE Vince Young fan. Vince Young is the type of quarterback that Michael Vick wishes he were. This is his rookie year!
Barring some catastophic injury, he's only going to get better and better. In my opinon, we're witnessing the next great QB to come along in the lines of Montana, Marino, Elway, Brady, and Manning. I've never seen a rookie QB with ice water in his veins the way VY has.
The Texans front office gave the fans of Houston the bird when they passed this guy to stick with Ken Doll as the QB. Great choice going with Mario. How poetic is it that he isn't even the best defensive rookie on his own team.
This stomach ache won't go away until next year when the Texans end up drafting Chris Leak in the first round.
Posted by: Terry at December 10, 2006 05:07 PM
A good thing will tomorrow--I will donate my Texans polo shirt and cap to charity. Bob and Charley have been proven wrong once again.
VY is a winner and Carr is a solid citizen but not a NFL caliber quarterback due to Charley not placing quality people around him. Carr needs a new place in two years after we draft Kolb and groom/place quality people around him and rejected offensive linemen like McKinney.
Posted by: Charles at December 10, 2006 05:12 PM
Posted by: Ryan at December 10, 2006 05:12 PM
Posted by: Russell K at December 10, 2006 05:12 PM
Can you say houston we have problem hahahaha!
Posted by: xavier at December 10, 2006 05:13 PM
Before you order that bust for Canton for "De-MEAK-0 Ryans, you might want to tell him that when you are unblocked and meet a 200 pound running back head on in the hole, you might want to tackle him instead of bouncing off like a pinball and letting him score. You might also want to tell De-MEAK-o that when you blitz a running quarterback, it is generally a good idea to tackle him instead of letting him run right by you for a 39 yard game clinching touchdown.
Posted by: Russell K at December 10, 2006 05:16 PM
Vince wins the game.
McNair writes game checks to Carr.
It will takes years to salvage this mess. Oh wait!
I am presuming the Texans will make better draft decisions in the future ...
make that decades!
Posted by: Mike at December 10, 2006 05:17 PM
"We have to figure out a way to stop Peyton Manning, that's why we drafted Mario Williams" - McNair
So um..
McNair...
.How are we going to stop Young?!
HAHAHA...
LMAO
Posted by: Kevin at December 10, 2006 05:19 PM
High-school:best ever. College: best ever. NFL: I dont know, but he reminds me of footballs' Michael Jordan.
All tangeables out the window; he's gonna beat you!
Posted by: jbone at December 10, 2006 05:21 PM
I would love to say something original about the Texans but everything has been said. There is nothing left to say.
All I can do is to continue to support them and wait for next year and hope that next year is the first step forward after five years of stepping backward.
Posted by: Lee at December 10, 2006 05:21 PM
Who can we dump this franchise off on?
Posted by: at December 10, 2006 05:21 PM
Posted by: JT Edwards at December 10, 2006 05:22 PM
.
.. and they said VY couldn't win in the NFL with his legs.
Garbage!
I can't believe there are people still defending carr. carr didn't lose the game, but he sure as hell didn't do anything to win it!
First, let me say hi to legendary carrlosers. Guys like Dan in League City, Rusty, MoCity Madman, how are you guys doing now? Mo and Rusty, I might have mispelled a word, but at least I had sense to know a winner.
I guess you'll find another reason for the team's loss.
Second, that was the first game this season the Texans played well in all aspects of the game. Well, except of course carr.
The run game was impressive, the defense was spectacular at times, special teams was solid. The Texans actually played a solid game.
I'm a VY guy and I'm happy the Titans won.
I can honestly say that those Texans played with heart and desire today.
No hard feelings Texans. Us VY guys just wanted to show our disaproval of the Texans arrogance.
Oh yeah, WOW!!!
It had to be VY to end the game.
Posted by: bigshotbum at December 10, 2006 05:23 PM
I just threw up. This is as sick as I was after Buffalo-Oiler game.
This may be worse because the future is so utterly bleak and what could been was nirvana.
Posted by: Monty at December 10, 2006 05:23 PM
Posted by: Ryan at December 10, 2006 05:24 PM
I think the Williams instead of Young draft move is up there with some seriously bad decisions in history like..
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The people of Troy deciding to roll the wooden horse into the city.
The Oilers not running out the clock when they led Buffalo 35-3 in the 3rd quarter of a playoff game.
Maybe it's the water that they use to mix the Kubiak kool-aid?
Posted by: Chris at December 10, 2006 05:24 PM
The most amazing thing is that Vince Young (well actually Bob McNair and his moronic 'brain trust') has turned so many stabbed-in-the-back-by-chickenspit-Bud Houstonians into bury the hatchet Titans fans.
Unfreakin believable, I can't think of any way that an owner could have screwed it up more in Houston. There is still a chance that the Texans, with a few years of good moves, could win this native Houstonian back, but I'll bet my house that they won't be capable of overcoming their previous mind-boggling stupidity. McNair and Casserly have turned the Texans into the NFL's biggest laughingstock.
Hey McNair, I'm sure you have a fat ego and think that you are oh so wiser and more shrewd than most. Yet now the talk is that even Snyder and Bidwell are better owners. Maybe you can buy the Saints, since they will forever be grateful for your gift (stolen by you from Houstonians.
) If there was any justice the stadium deal would be terminated for non-performance and fraud by inducement.
Posted by: You owe us a refund Bob at December 10, 2006 05:24 PM
He made it look so easy..
..you know, what so special about vince young he is so poised and focused when under pressure he doesnt feel like hes under pressure, he actually starts to get on fire.
He just looked so relaxed and calm, the crowd here at reliant got pretty loud down the stretch and to me loud crowds, pressure, whatever.. doesnt effect VY thats whats so unique about this guy, and for david carr, his performance in my eyes is still weak, looking shaky in the pocket, overthrowing and underthrowing the ball.
..man carr, hes just not good.
..Im still very sad and hurt on why the texans didnt pick VY.
..WHY!
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.I bet you anything VY wins a superbowl before David Carr does, matter of fact david will never win one..
..WHY!
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Posted by: The Specialist at December 10, 2006 05:25 PM
We need to start from scratch first we need to draft Kevin Kolb second we need to change the name of the texans to the Oilers somehow we need to convince Bud Adams to give us the naming rights.
KEVIN KOLB KEVIN KOLB!
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Posted by: Ryan at December 10, 2006 05:26 PM
The one thing the Texans organization could have accomplished by drafting Vince Young is solidifying the Texans in the Houston market and stealing the Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, and Rio Grande Valley markets away from the Cowboys.
The real winner other than the Titans on draft day was Jerry Jones.
Posted by: Sid at December 10, 2006 05:28 PM
FIRE KUBIAK.
THE ULTIMATE AGGIE JOKE.
Posted by: at December 10, 2006 05:29 PM
Ok, we lost the worst way we could have lost. Carr played a good game, and the defense blew it on the final play. Im still a Texans fan, and will be.
The person responsible for the first pick was casserly, the idiot takes a pick and quits his job, what a prick! Its not the teams fault, its not carr's fault, its not the fans fault. Go TEXANS!
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-PS- this kind of talk is what got the oilers moving to Tennesse in the first place. Keep it up guys, soon you'll be cheering for the cowboys.
.. ewwww
Posted by: Jesse G at December 10, 2006 05:30 PM
We were discussing the game, and remembering the Cowboys when they were winning all their rings.
Vince Young showed that he is probably not a great quarterback, but he is probably a great player,,, a playmaker. Will he last running in the NFL or will he get squished, who knows but he is fun. That said, the Texans lack the playmakers who deliver like the Cowboys had.
Michael Irvin would have made the first down, and that would have given Aikman a chance.. doesn't happen here.
It is so stupid that not only did they not take Young, but even stupider, they did not take Bush. DC would love to have a playmaker on his team to work with. Will it happen here?
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