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B.) Marvin: I am thrilled that Daisy and David are getting married. Muse put on a wonderful concert Garrison Keillor will be here , Prairie Home Companion show live at Music Hall.
We are going (AND BRINGING ME WITH! I ll give you a review next week. Ellen) Joyce: I am grateful to be here living in Cinti near my daughter and granddaughter and Spencer is new and special in my life.
And my son is coming to visit me with his girlfriend after many years of isolation. Spencer: I am grateful to have found Joyce, an entertaining and interesting part of my life and I have an offer on a condo I am selling today. Gerry: I am grateful I found Marvin 48 years ago and at my tender age to be able to ski.
That Marvin and I are healthy, and don t owe anyone any money. Steve: I am grateful to this group as an oasis in the desert to hear the news Feel blessed to be here and to come together and create a set of topics to think about, talk about, and maybe take action about. Last week a speaker at NKU, XU and UC: Resa Aslan, author of No God but God , a Muslim scholar who presented a bold idea that Islam is undergoing a reformation period.
A hundred year period of change going on. Questions: Who are the authorities of the religion? Imams, scholars, or individuals?
A bold and amazing idea. Usually when a scholar comes to UC the attendance is slight; we had over 2000 people to hear him. The questions were vigorous.
I was heartened. Since 911 we have become in the west aware of this force: the reformation includes translating the QU'RAN into English Muslims are the second most affluent minority in US Muslims are turning to Muslim televangelists for teachings. One televangelist in particular, out of Egypt it is happening all over the world.
Osama bin Laden represents the new minority who are saying people should follow him, though not the Qu'ran, not the Imam. It is a Protestantization of Islam. Main line traditional Muslims are upset; the terrorist type attacks are all banned by the Qu'ran and by Sharia (Islamic law).
Gerry: I want to bring everybody s attention to Time mag. cover story on the pope going to Turkey soon. Talked about the role of Islam in today s society.
Didn t say anything about the reformation you are talking about. When the pope was in Germany recently he referenced a 14th cent. Muslim who said something about Islam and violence going hand in hand.
(!) Steve: I have been at the Freestore this week. Largest number of recipients yesterday over 2000.
Many grateful people. Remarkable outpouring of donations. Bill: I am grateful that so many people have things to be grateful for.
I left US on Nov 7 and I am grateful for the (election) news on the 8th and 9th as I was in Prague, finding out that the Republicans decided not to pull the electronic strings to change the election. Janet I am grateful for being 93; to belong to this fascinating group; to belong to my writing group, also fascinating, Women Writing for a Change, for the lovely weather, for Springrove Cemetery, the nicest greenspace around. Some of the most magnificent trees.
Spencer I am grateful to be here with a great revolutionary feminist like Janet. Linda for good health, good friends, that my schedule allows me to come back to the salon, for all the support that is in my life. Bill two days ago the socialist party in France had a primary.
A woman took the election, a woman named Royal. Has a good chance at being the first woman President of France. New Democratic Speaker of the House.
Had 5 (or 6) kids. Her father a big politician. Mayor of Baltimore.
Daisy I think it is just terrific that we have a woman speaker of the house; I don t expect her to be better than the men. I do think she ll push some different agendas. Gerry she wanted Murtha to be the assistant speaker and lost.
Daisy I don t think she is particularly progressive. She is left of the center in the Dem. Party.
Is very anti war. David One of the things that is going to happen that people sort of predicted is that there will be a major change on Iraq policy. Bush doesn t have a rubber stamp congress to fund the war anymore.
Bill: bush has continued, t hough, to push forward a number of extreme people. Like an anti-contraception guy to head of family planning. he still has a veto.
David seems like he will make the Republicans look awfully bad. Spencer on NPR: teen pregnancy is down, but single women in late twenties and thirties are having way more babies.
Daisy some are in relationships, just not married. David I am wondering if people are electing abortion less. I think people are taking abortion differently nowadays.
When I was a young man in the 70 s people had abortion in an ethics neutral way. I don t think that is the case today. Bill there are whole states in which there is not even one doctor who will perform one.
Marvin are we experiencing a rejection by women of the idea that men are vital to the existence of American society? Daisy I t hink it is (that women are thinking it is) better to be without a man than with one you don t like. Rather than saying, I ve go t to have some man to have a child.
Today women are marrying only if they think they could have a positive relation with the man. So women are either choosing to have babies alone or just to not marry the father of your child. Daisy When I was a child, the illegitimate children were shunned.
Gerry when I was growing up, it was scandalous if a woman got pregnant. a sophomore in college got pregnant, had to leave school at the end of the year. Joyce I think men are also making choices not to marry the women they get pregnant, and the women are going ahead and having the baby.
Ellen: It seems to me that the young men today don t have the zeal, the ambition that they used to have. I remember as a student at Vassar visiting friends from Walnut Hills who were at Yale, and reflecting how much more dynamism there was among the young men than there was among the women of similar background and abilities. leadership roles in walnut Hills h.
s.--prresident of the class, editor of the Chatterbox, Remembrancer, Head of Student Council-- mostly had passed to the girls in Anna s class 1987. I remember seeing a special TV report on Manhattan s Chinatown in the 70 s: An elder of that community said, When the young men have no hope, you are in trouble.
The failure of the American Dream, the conquering colossus. U.S.
As the savior of the world, the great golden future of prosperity and modernity. That is dead. But the women, the girls, are still connected with the sources of grandeur they have always been concernd wih: have healthy children!
Feed them! Keep them well! So they still have that dynamism, and maybe it is the reason why the women seem more fit today than the men, more involved and motivated Marvin: men today don t know how to deal with the women of today.
It is not true any more that men are presumed to be dominant. Joke: when you go to a Jewish wedding, how do you know which denomination it is? Reform, Conservative, Orthodox, Reconstructionist?
At an orthodox wedding the mother of the bride is pregnant. At the conservative wedding the bride is pregnant. At the Reform wedding the rabbi is pregnant.
At the Reconstructionist wedding, the groom is pregnant. Gerry they were interviewing the micro banking man from Bangladesh. He likes to lend to women but it took years to persuade the women that they could handle money.
David In peasant society, women raise most of the food. the men are trying to get cash out of this global economy, unsuccessfully. But in terms of keeping the population alive it is the women who do most of the work.
the role of the male in post industrial society has changed drastically; probably even worse in countries who are suffering in globalization. Gerry just the last 20 years, huge change in communications. Spencer: in (Eastern) Europe Jewish men studied, and the women ran the businesses.
In America, it changed. Linda I just see it as a shift from male dominated society the question we have is how do we inspire society now? Not the conflict among genders, parties, religions; how do you live a human life.
How do we re define this? Bill I don t see this as a negative at all. I remember being a feminist in the 60 s.
At that time, one man could dominate a circle of women in a discussion. Men had to learn to shut up and learn from the women. I think it is very healthy , the end of the American machismo thing, conquering the world, nationalistic fervor.
Rather, some planetary shared male-female aspiratons Daisy I am not sure there are not involved men at Walnut I know very involved boys at Walnut Hills a walk out, a march to music hall a few years ago David smart men are learning what to be against, but not what to be for. What kind of opportunities and vision does this society have for the present and for the future? Nebulous at best.
Marvin In today s world men have to learn that today women are full fledged people. Learn it from women in t his new society. Who better to teach them how to behave than the women who emerged f rom a second place position?
Bill that was one of the valuable things about being a feminist male thirty years ago, forty years. The great opportunity to learn from women I also disagreed with another thing Ellen said; the American dream collapse having a male association around it. When I look around, see these people, start upcompanies in 80 s and 90 s, silicone valley, computer wizzards.
..every single one of them are men.
Julia most of the small businesses are run by women. The big corps. are run by men Spencer: in very ancient days, it was only men who were literate.
David: the first joke my son told me in second grade. Mommy, is god a man or a woman? Son, God is neither a man nor a woman.
Black or white? . ( Neither Black nor white.
) Gay or straight? ( Neither Gay nor Straight. ).
Well, Mom, then is Michael Jackson God? Derrick what makes you presume there is a God? Do I need proof there is no elephant in the room?
Spencer to believe in something that is not so, is to believe in a fantasy; if you knowingly believe in a fantasy, knowing it is a fantasy, that s good. That s why I am comfortable with my belief in God. Janet Well, that is not a position acceptable to any theist.
(Closed with round: We have come too far.) Eric Russo to show movie on Fed. Reserve and IRS: so nice to talk to you yesterday.
Per our discussion, here is a blurb on the movie that I would like to share with your group. It is called, From Freedom to Facism, produced by Aaron Russo, no relation. Aaron directed such movies as The Rose and Trading Places.
Since no distributor would touch this film, Russo initially relied on independent movie houses and organizations to premier the film, which has happened throughout the country since last March. Now, he has made the film avaliable on DVD, which I recently purchased. The basic theme of the movie is this.
The true power of this country is not with our executive, legislative or judicial branches of government, much as we would like to believe. Rather it is the coporate banks and their leaders that call the shots through an institution called the Federal Reserve, and it is the IRS that is their enforcer. Both of these groups have systematically stripped the wealth of this nation for the last 93 years.
They have also stripped us of our power, because it is they who are above the laws of this land. They are accountable to absolutely no one. They are above all of our nationally elected leaders and they are above the Constitution itrself.
They are the ones that Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson and Lincoln warned us about. It is what cost Kennedy his life after he signed an executive order in June, 1963 abolishing the Federal Reserve. The movie inspires us to become aware, and instructs us how to take action.
The movie is 1 hour and 47 minutes. I would like to share it with you on November 29th. (Will someone take notes at the showing and write a review for the Weekly?
Ellen) This is an opportunity to have access to Ellen in a freely affordable way, for those who would love that, but don t feel like or can t afford a full-dress psychotherapy appointment. It most likely will be a small group could be just you and me.
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